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Weak minded people can’t do anything but destroy the work of the great.


They’ve got money for war but can’t feed the poor


The point you’re missing is that at the weapons makers have the profit margins to bribe trump and the republicans. If the poor people want their needs met, they are going to have to make a more substantive monetary offering. The president is too busy to consider something so insubstantial as the needs of the voters, unless it comes engraved on bars of gold. And yes that’s “bars” plural.

The point you’re missing is that at the weapons makers have the profit margins to bribe trump and the republicans

I very much am not. I’m fully aware of how corrupt the political system already was BEFORE the Mango Mussolini and his fascist kakistocracy took it to 11.

If the poor people want their needs met, they are going to have to make a more substantive monetary offering.

Nice one! 😁🤜🏼

The president is people in control of all parts of the government as well as the leadership of the SUPPOSED opposition party are too busy to consider something so insubstantial as the needs of the voters

Fixed it for you

unless it comes engraved on bars of gold

Or toilets fashioned from the same material, in the case of the turd currently stinking up the oval office.


Theres a reason there are DoD contractors in all US states and territories. That way any congressperson that comes out against the war machine gets primaried due to being a “job killer” in their home district/state.



You should read 1984. All of this is deliberate/by design.

I don’t know man… We have always been at war with Eurasia.




Wealth gaps are driven by governments benefitting the wealthiest over everyone else. They do this, as they themselves are chasing ratings from international ratings agencies.

So they splurge on the biggest companies the country has, giving them a golden road to more wealth in the hopes GDP or some other stat will go up (and then the country’s rating).

Ratings agencies themselves have to change in order to distinguish healthy managed degrowth, from recession. The importance of tackling climate change and secure the future by doing less. Or doing the same with better use of resources.

Whilst printing money or digitally creating it, may be infinite, that’s not what the ratings agencies believe - they’re all neo liberal. We all need to understand climate change and massive wealth disparity are a national security and existential threat.

Wealth gaps are driven by governments benefitting the wealthiest over everyone else

EXACTLY.

They do this, as they themselves are chasing ratings from international ratings agencies.

And legal (as well as some illegal) bribes for themselves.

Ratings agencies themselves have to change in order to distinguish healthy managed degrowth, from recession

Damn right. The best time for the world’s richest governments to stop chasing infinite growth for the haves achieved partially by enforcing artificial scarcity for the have nots was decades ago, but right now would also be excellent.

The importance of tackling climate change and secure the future by doing less. Or doing the same with better use of resources.

Yep. A combination of drastically reduced consumption by ending planned obsolescence, transitioning away from all uses of fossil fuels, and diverting resources away from the dragon hoards of billionaires and predatory corporations towards renewable energy, poverty alleviation, public education, and worldwide universal healthcare would make almost literally everything exponentially better.

We all need to understand climate change and massive wealth disparity are a national security and existential threat.



Austerity is a fucking lie. Yet all over the globe people believe it, even think it makes them an economy whizz to have opinions on how to solve it.

The name Keynes keeps these people up at night.




Definitely more 1984 everyday


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If they spend money on something it’s because they expect it will give them a greater return.

If they refuse to spend money on something it’s because they expect it will not give them a greater return.

If you are wondering what return they get from war, I suggest you consider maintaining elite status as part of it, i.e. “have to postpone midterm elections due to the war” etc.


It’s unbelievable how much more powerful, livable, and culturally cohesive you could be as a country, if you had a government that wanted to actually solve systematic problems to make life better for all Americans. Imagine an alternate reality where the US gov actually worked to provide you with the essentials you need to survive? The US could’ve become objectively, the strongest cornerstone of western democracy, cemented in a history of moral altruism.

This website visualises the ultra wealthy to scale, with examples of issues that could’ve been solved using this money, such as: - Chemotherapy for Every Cancer Patient: The site states that the annual cost of chemotherapy for all cancer patients is approximately $9 billion. It then points out that Jeff Bezos made that much money in just 40 days in 2018. - Malaria Eradication: It highlights that a tiny fraction of the wealth of the 400 richest Americans could eradicate malaria globally. - Ending Homelessness: The visualization includes the cost to house every homeless veteran in the United States. - Clean Water: It estimates the cost of providing clean water and waste disposal to every human on earth. - Testing for COVID-19: During the pandemic, the site was updated to show that Bezos’s wealth could easily pay to test every single person in the U.S. for the virus. ** and the US would still easily be the richest country in the world. This is without even taking into account the sheer amount of wealth the US and it’s politicians possess as a whole country.

So in short, if the US gov actually wanted to help support their own population the US could have: - Eradicated homelessness, malaria, chemotherapy costs, water scarcity + waste colonialism, and COVID-19 test costs. - Provided universal free chemotherapy to every single cancer patient in the US - The best and most affordable healthcare system in the world - The best education system - The most affordable housing system - The best Transport - Solved and you’d still have more than enough money to invest in your military, intelligence agencies, and crucial architecture that big business relies on.

Yes that means that every single problem that Americans suffer with, is optional. The only reason Americans don’t have all these things, is because the wealthiest people in the world have decided that instead of working in symbiosis with the rest of humanity, they would rather feed off of and suppress the 99%.

The top 1% wants ownership *over the whole planet. It isn’t enough to live obscenely luxurious lives, they want total control over everyone’s values, beliefs, actions, and decisions. They want to own you, they want to own me, and they want to own everyone else. To them we’re the equivalent of house squatters living off THEIR real-estate. * So how exactly do they solve that problem? They can’t exactly go and evict 9 billion people without serious repercussions. *Yet BlackRock bought Christmas Island and has invested so much in housing; along with billionaires like Zuckerberg, Musk, and Bezos, even bought their own islands. So what do they do if they can’t evict us? They do the next best thing; * destroy our autonomy, ** forcing us to rely entirely on them, through legal retribution. How? By criminalising ownership, and forcing everyone to pay subscription fees for everything.

First it was music and podcasts. Then movies and TV shows, digital and audio books, as well as social media. So what’s left? Well, the only thing not on that list are the essentials, and they’re already coming for those too. Think housing, water, food, cars (eventually public transport). If you thought communism, is bad, oligarchy is much worse, just look at Russia.

If you’re someone that thinks this will never happen to us, think again. Musk is already looking at implementing paid subscriptions to unlock features in Tesla cars

We can fight back. We can stop things from getting worse, and we can undo the damage that’s been done. But* only if we can overcome the social divisions they are purposely funding in order to keep everyone from organising against them. We have to become *active participants in our communities, if we want to ever live in a truly free world. That might look like something as small as spending time with your family and friends, or helping volunteer with clean up in your council. Whatever you do it is clear, the only way for humanity to survive the commercialized corporate hellscape Earth is becoming, is by coming together in spite of our differences, to fight for something bigger than all of us individually; a world whose freedoms are no longer held hostage by the top 1%.

This. We need to get out of the weeds and get back on track. We’d need a bit of guidance though as we’ve become accustomed to our own isolation due to current lack of community. C’mon you extroverts with heart and soul, come back and lead the rest of us out of this cave and we’ll do the rest. If you relate any of this to money then we’re all screwed.

The problem is that COVID paralysed a lot of the extroverts, especially the extroverted children and teens. For me personally I can attest that the COVID-19 lockdowns in Australia, destroyed my sociability. But I’m maturing now, and I’m realising that I need to find others like me, because if this is a widespread problem effecting billions of other people, that means there are people out there that are ready to start getting to work, they just need support from others like myself. I think the degree to which the lockdowns impacted people’s cognitive health, was severely overlooked. But we can get through this, and we can fight back, they wouldn’t be introducing hate speech laws and trying to ban social media around the world if they weren’t worried of a collective voice forming on the internet.





Scream further into the void. Just stop serving them, ffs.


Vote in a right wing government get right wing policy. Pretty simple

So where’s the left wing government to vote, because it sure as fuck ain’t the two capitalist parties?


As if voting would change things in the US

Ok youre one of the people voting for right wing policy then.

You’re saying none of those things would happen under dems?

It would be less worse under the Dems, yeah

- not a USA American


Do we really still need to have this discussion in 2026? I’m happy to go through it as many times as it takes to prevent Americans from voting Trump in a 3rd time.


Let me guess, you voted for whoever that third party lady was.

Hm wonder where she’s run off to.

Jillian! Where are you?!







Talking about the problems without also talking about the solution just angers people who don’t know how to fix things, which is not productive.

We all know what the solution is. But talking about it gets you banned and/or comments removed.

No one here will ban you for talking about overthrowing capitalism and overthrowing the state?

Depends on whether your comment involves threats of violence or not. Threats of violence are almost always met with a comment removed at minimum.

Here?

@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com we can say we should kill the US politicians in a revolution, right?

I ain’t your dad. However I do find such statements counter productive as it just scares people away from what anarchism is really about.

As for politicians, I’d rather make them equal to the rest of us. For those who’ve spent all their lives pampered in privilege that would feel intolerable. Of course the fash can get bashed




There is no peaceful way to overthrow capitalism.



talking about it gets you banned

What about posting an image of a green hat?


So find the mods and change their minds. Or, start a lemmy community with less moderation.



Leftists: posts agitprop meme

Liberals: “you can’t just be angry, you need solutions!”

Leftists: posts meme with appropriate historical context and potential solutions

Liberals: “you leftists always talk too much, give me a tl;dr”

Not what is happening. You’re a good example of what I’m talking about though. Thanks for that.

I’m illustrating the pattern you liberals always use in response to our memes. The through line is that we never do it the “right” way. You came to an anarchist space to criticize our agitprop, and then get confused when we don’t play your game. Why do we need a dissertation to go along with our agitprop?

I’m an anarchist. Sorry hon. Not gonna win.

I don’t believe you, but whatever. Since when has agitprop required a dissertation?

Refusing to have conversations helps nothing.







If people aren’t sufficiently angry at the system, they won’t bother to listen to a solution.

Gotta raise the discontent and class consciousness first.

It’s raised as far as it’s going to get. The system will have to get worse, but there won’t be the “until it gets better” part. It’s just going to keep getting worse until it’s so far gone no one can fix it.




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